Curse

BladeDVD · Nov 11, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

I am neither the government nor a member of Arena Net. I cannot answer anything with an ounce of truth. Yet what I said before was an affirmation, I did not implicate anything, however I did suggest that there was SOMETHING (which I do not know) that's behind the reason why these contest aren't available in my province. I tried to give a reasonable explanation, even with the lack of knowledge about the subject. You tell me why you can't offer this contest in Quebec? Let's see if you have a better answer then me.

If I lacked respect, you must excuse me, I was being ignorant.

Saying things like, "I guess Anet or NC Soft (whichever) can't respect all the consumer safety laws in Quebec, o well," reads a lot like "Anet can't respect our laws because they are crooks." You can imagine, I would think, how someone from ANet might take offense at that.

The answer is that Quebec laws have put up barriers to contests that make them economically unfeasible. I imagine your professor is correct about them being originally implemented to protect consumers, but that happened long before ANet came on the scene. Moreover, most countries (or provinces or states) have provisions to protect consumers from fraud, but not all countries (or provinces or states) have protections so high that they discourage companies from offering contests in them. Quebec and, if I remember correctly, Rhode Island are a few of the places in North America that do.

NeHoMaR · Nov 11, 2007, 08:41 AM // 08:41

United States and Canada ONLY?

Why? it's just a minipet key they send you via email. That is completely crap and unfair for people not leaving in that overpowered countries. I ALSO bought game, the four.

**cosyfiep** · Nov 11, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

another contest past, another contest lost....story of my life (should have used my hubby account info., he always wins stuff, me...lets see long time ago I won a 'how many beans in the jar' contest, my prize? the piece of paper that everyone wrote their entries on...and still have it.....yep that's my luck!)

and yeah they should offer to all or none, just makes people upset to be left out for whatever reason.

congrats to this months winners.....maybe I will be able to change my story next month (or maybe december....................)

You Look Grim · Nov 11, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

is it too late to register @@

Akaten Talon · Nov 11, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Do you have to register each month?

Talon

Smile Like Umean It · Nov 11, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by You Look Grim

is it too late to register @@

Nope

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Originally Posted by Akaten Talon

Do you have to register each month?

Talon

Don't think so.

The Legg · Nov 11, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Well yes us in the UK have had promotions for some mini's but sure does suck that we cant enter this one

Gaile Gray · Nov 11, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by Midnight Harmony

Buying a £5.99 magazine for the chance to win a pet is not fair. To be honest Gaile I'd rather have a sweepstakes promotion with less pets on offer, like the U.S, because at least that's free. I appreciate the prizes I really do, I just wish more people could enjoy them.

I completely understand what you are saying. It's something that I'm going to make a point of communicating with all the teams involved with future promotions involving give-aways. But keep in mind, people in other countries don't even have the option of purchasing the magazine, and hopefully, the magazine is worth more than just a code for an in-game item. The magazine contains an extensive article, art images, and a lot of other things of value, so you're not paying a straight £5.99 for a code -- you're paying the £5.99 for the magazine, and getting a chance at a code, as well. But yes, I do understand, truly, the heart of what you're saying and I will advocate for some differences in promotions in the future.

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

I am neither the government nor a member of Arena Net. I cannot answer anything with an ounce of truth. Yet what I said before was an affirmation, I did not implicate anything, however I did suggest that there was SOMETHING (which I do not know) that's behind the reason why these contest aren't available in my province. I tried to give a reasonable explanation, even with the lack of knowledge about the subject. You tell me why you can't offer this contest in Quebec? Let's see if you have a better answer then me. If I lacked respect, you must excuse me, I was being ignorant.

You may find this of interest: English and French. The list of companies that cannot do an outreach to Quebec is endless. There are certain states and provinces that want to "take a slice of the pie" for themselves in putting in place certains fees and charges that are, one assumes, part of their operating budgets. Some call it "protection." Others call it something much less positive. We're not willing to pay a fee to a governmental agency in order to give their citizens free goods. To do so opens the "I want some too" doors for every other city, state, province or country to do the same. Should we, for the "privilege" of giving things away, be asked to pay a third party a fee? No, I don't think so. And should we have to pay for hours of an attorney's time (have you seen attorney fees lately!?) to do a legal review to make sure we've met all of this one province's unique "protection" laws? Again, I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by You Look Grim

is it too late to register @@

Sign up any time through the end of December. But if you sign up this month, you'll be in two drawings, instead of just one.

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Originally Posted by Akaten Talon

Do you have to register each month?

No, your entry will remain in place throughout the drawings that take place after you register. So those who register in October will be in three drawings, for October, November, and December.

Sujoy · Nov 11, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

You may find this of interest: English and French. The list of companies that cannot do an outreach to Quebec is endless. There are certain states and provinces that want to "take a slice of the pie" for themselves in putting in place certains fees and charges that are, one assumes, part of their operating budgets. Some call it "protection." Others call it something much less positive. We're not willing to pay a fee to a governmental agency in order to give their citizens free goods. To do so opens the "I want some too" doors for every other city, state, province or country to do the same. Should we, for the "privilege" of giving things away, be asked to pay a third party a fee? No, I don't think so.

And should we have to pay for hours of an attorney's time (have you seen attorney fees lately!?) to do a legal review to make sure we've met all of this one province's unique "protection" laws? Again, I don't think so.

That explains alot, and I quite heartedly agree with you. In Quebec, we are the most taxed province of all of Canada, our national hockey team pays more in taxes then all the other teams in the NHL combined, and in return the government is left with surplus's in money like there is no tomorrow.

Anet shouldn't be paying to give away free things, and it is clear that tehy are not "crooks" (I have never thought so), since others have benefited from the sweepstakes.

I also agree attorney fees are outrageous (my cousin had to pay for a lawyer in a self defence case, cost him near a thousand dollars).

But, I still feel tortured not being able of participate :S, kills me! If I could get around the system (Toronto?!), I would.

This long wall of text is to clear any misunderstanding or lack of respect that I may have/had for Gaile Gray and the Arena Net team.

warcrap · Nov 11, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

eh i didnt win so i just went to publix and got a destroyer mini....god bless america.

Smile Like Umean It · Nov 11, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Sign up any time through the end of December. But if you sign up this month, you'll be in two drawings, instead of just one.

Wait, what? Someone explain please.

didis · Nov 11, 2007, 11:39 PM // 23:39

To Gray:

Arenanet disregards their own EULA. It states that it's not allowed to sell in game items for real money. By arranging partnerships with gaming magazines the opportunity is given to those magazines to make profit with the special pet-giveaway's. Most publisher sell more magazines.

Also the in game prizing of the very rare minipets is outrageous high (700+ ecto's for a vizu).

Therefor give everyone the possiblity to get these minipets in the third birthday present. Then everyone has the possibility to get ALL minipets in the hall...to end the GW1-area and starting GW2

Sujoy · Nov 12, 2007, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by didis

To Gray:

Arenanet disregards their own EULA. It states that it's not allowed to sell in game items for real money. By arranging partnerships with gaming magazines the opportunity is given to those magazines to make profit with the special pet-giveaway's. Most publisher sell more magazines.

Also the in game prizing of the very rare minipets is outrageous high (700+ ecto's for a vizu).

Therefor give everyone the possiblity to get these minipets in the third birthday present. Then everyone has the possibility to get ALL minipets in the hall...to end the GW1-area and starting GW2

well I think the point of having these exclusives miniatures is the fact that there aren't alot. so once you do get your hands on one, you won't let it go. also, at those outrageous price, just don't buy it. one thing you must understand, it is very difficult for one person to have all miniatures, and seeing as you can only display 20 at once, it is a choice based selection, so you can have a full hall without having ALL miniatures in game. it keeps the mini-hunt going

Gaile Gray · Nov 12, 2007, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by Sujoy

But, I still feel tortured not being able of participate :S, kills me! If I could get around the system (Toronto?!), I would.

This long wall of text is to clear any misunderstanding or lack of respect that I may have/had for Gaile Gray and the Arena Net team.

Thank you, Sujoy, you're very kind to write what you've written. And if things change, I'll be the first to happily add Quebec to the list!

( BTW, the Nordiques were a fine hockey team. Did they move because of the taxation? Oh, sorry, that's waaaay OT there! I'm just sort of on a hockey cloud, still. My team scored 5 goals in 5 minutes and 7 seconds, then won in overtime last night. Game of the decade, for me.

)

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Originally Posted by didis

To Gray:Arenanet disregards their own EULA. It states that it's not allowed to sell in game items for real money. By arranging partnerships with gaming magazines the opportunity is given to those magazines to make profit with the special pet-giveaway's. Most publisher sell more magazines. Therefor give everyone the possiblity to get these minipets in the third birthday present. Then everyone has the possibility to get ALL minipets in the hall...to end the GW1-area and starting GW2

But please consider: They're selling a magazine, not a miniature. The chance of a mini is a bonus, the mini is not the item being sold. Further, our legal rights to sell items related to our intellectual property are different than a third-party's allowed uses. So even if we were outright licensing the sale, it would not be a breach of the User Agreement. We're not Users, after all.

And giving everyone everything is simply not a reasonable suggestion. I'm sure if you think about it, you'll agree.

Sujoy · Nov 12, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Thank you, Sujoy, you're very kind to write what you've written. And if things change, I'll be the first to happily add Quebec to the list!

( BTW, the Nordiques were a fine hockey team. Did they move because of the taxation? Oh, sorry, that's waaaay OT there! I'm just sort of on a hockey cloud, still. My team scored 5 goals in 5 minutes and 7 seconds, then won in overtime last night. Game of the decade, for me.

)

Oh oh, a LAK fan! I'm kind of torn between Canucks and Canadiens.

Nordiques moved because of a dumb GM at that time, who is behind bars now (or I hope so... argh!).

Sar · Nov 15, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Euros had about 12 different regional promotions, and gave away many times the number offered in the Mini Mania Contest. I'm sorry that you are unhappy, but the giveaways this year has been more than fair to European players. The Mini Mania contest is a way to try to equalize things a bit for those in North America.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree 100%

Hate to break it to ya Gaile, but Europe is not 1 country like the US. I'm in the UK (NI to be exact), and we've had few mini-pet promotions that I recall that it was actually feasible to partake in (Destroyer of Sinew anyone?).

And the most recent one, which this US/Canada free sweepstake is the equivalent of, we HAD to pay £6 or $12 just to get one shot at a mini.

The Yanks get up to 3 goes for nothing - the equivalent for us would be £18 or $36 worth of magazines.

Ebony Shadowheart · Nov 15, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

I entered last month. If I win one, hooray! If I don't, oh well.

Anet tried to do something nice and gets bitten in the ass yet again. GJ guys, perhaps they should not offer ANY contest EVER and stop doing in game events. Would that finally make you people happy? Otherwise, stop bitching.

Mordakai · Nov 15, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It

Wait, what? Someone explain please.

It's November. There will be another drawing this month, and next...

You could wait until December to register, but then you'd miss out on November's drawing.

Make sense?

Smile Like Umean It · Nov 15, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

It's November. There will be another drawing this month, and next...

You could wait until December to register, but then you'd miss out on November's drawing.

Make sense?

Yeah, I got that. Just for some reason I read it as sign up now and get one chance, sign up in December and get two.

Shakti · Nov 15, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Ebony Shadowheart

I entered last month. If I win one, hooray! If I don't, oh well.

Anet tried to do something nice and gets bitten in the ass yet again. GJ guys, perhaps they should not offer ANY contest EVER and stop doing in game events. Would that finally make you people happy? Otherwise, stop bitching.

QFT, This says it all imo